Guest Post: Adventures in Real Estate Investing

by on February 22, 2012

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I am hopping on a plane today for Santiago, Chile, to get a “boots on the ground” perspective of Simon Black’s new real estate development and sustainable community, so today’s article comes from one of our very own Kung Fu Finance community members, “Aunty from Hawaii” (and no, I don’t know her, at least not yet, although Kung Fu Guy is also from Hawaii — small world!). :-)

I hope you enjoy her great “from the trenches” post as a beginning real estate investor. She has recently been purchasing investment properties in Las Vegas that have positive cash flow and has a story for us about how taking action, even “imperfect” action (much like my buying physical silver story), is much better than doing nothing and moves you closer to your goals.

It’s also a peek into the expensive world of investment classes…are they worth it?

Here is her story…

Enjoy, and I’ll be back on Friday with preliminary notes on Chile and some QnA!

To your financial success,

— Kung Fu Girl

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Aloha from Aunty! Whenever those free 2-hour Rich Dad Education “Learn to be Rich” events come to Honolulu, Aunty goes. The speaker is usually an excellent salesman who offers additional training for 3 days in a class that promises to “teach everything needed to get rich with real estate investing for the bargain price of $199″ (and you can bring a guest for free).

Three years ago, I began with my first free 2-hour introductory training and decided to attend the $199 training, too. As it turned out, the $199 three-day training was a prelude to an extremely expensive package of courses ($9,000 or more!).

The trainer in the 3-day “crash course” was very good at summarizing (with a little bit of wrong information) all the different techniques, which are based on advanced courses in the Rich Dad Tigrent Education packages. I signed up for the package that cost $16,000 (yikes! and I didn’t tell Uncle until way later) because I figured the advanced courses would help me get over the humps and give me the confidence to invest.

I took Foreclosure, Master Trader, Asset Protection, Lease Options, and Creative Real Estate Financing classes. I learned the most from the Asset Protection class and the Master Trader (swing trading stocks) classes. Although there was a lot of information in the other classes, most of the information taught could have been learned from books. [What these classes teach are not really what Robert Kiyosaki preaches. Rich Dad Education is a trademark name that pays Robert Kiyosaki royalties to use his name, face, etc.—but their content is their own. To learn from these groups is not the same as learning from Robert Kiyosaki.]

What did I do after the classes?

For a few months, even after getting some classes under my belt, I remained in the “not sure of what to do” phase and did not take action.

I was contacted by Rich Dad Coaching (another company with the Rich Dad trademark but not affiliated with Rich Dad Education). For $6000 (yikes again and I didn’t tell Uncle!), I subscribed to having my own personal coach for a 45 minute call, once a week for 16 weeks. It came with a guarantee that I would purchase property during the coaching period, or they would continue to coach me. Not too shabby since I also got a $300 Cash Flow game mailed to our house. It came with a gold metal mouse and cheese!

I had a rather poor learning experience with my coaches (one spoke too softly & seemed disorganized, and the other was too impersonal, impatient and book/course focused), but it did give me a sounding board with a real person for my very first deal. It was like having a security blanket which I really didn’t need, but felt safer to have.

The leap

After going through two “wrong-for-me” realtors, I finally found an investment minded Vegas realtor — a recommendation from our entities attorney. I used a free worksheet that I found on the RichDad.com tools tab to analyze the properties my realtor send me via email. I put in offers and was thrilled when one was accepted!

Looking back, I could have skipped the Rich Dad courses, but on some level I must acknowledge that they must have helped. All of the information that was taught and the tools that were used are available for free on the Internet or in books if you know what to look for, but I probably wouldn’t have actually taken the plunge without education, or on my own without a hand to hold.

I also had to make use of what I was learning because of the guilt of spending so much, which forced me to dive in.

If I could do it over again

Would I spend $22,199 on classes and coaching if I could do it over again? Probably so if I didn’t know what I know now because I was clueless.

Are there better ways to spend $22,199 to get into real estate investing? Definitely! I would buy a $100,000 single family home or 4 plex with 20% down and 80% financing and rent it for $1200 for the sfh, or $2000 for the 4 plex per month.

Advice for newbies

One of the best ways to learn is to play the Cash Flow game with other investors or wannabe investors. Just by playing, you will get the shift in your mindset on the best strategies and also help you get comfortable with investing.

Join a local real estate investor club (google search for city and real estate investment club). I joined the Hawaii Real Estate Investors in 2009, annual dues of $120 or $15 per meeting. I am glad I did because I have met some of the finest fellow investors, mentors and supporters there. This club brings in speakers every month with real estate specific topics to educate. Their annual Hawaii Wealth Summit is incredibly rich in content and networking.

Networking is super important. Your best and most reliable contacts for your power team of realtors, mortgage brokers, bankers, rehabbers can be found from people you network with. Go to meetings, seminars, or places that successful people hang out in. One good contact can make a world of difference in your investment success.

Read a lot of books, search and learn. If you are motivated enough to learn on your own and take the leap on your own, then do it.

If you need to be pushed or need someone to talk to, coaching helps. If you do spend that much money on courses or coaching, make sure you do take the steps and actually invest.

If you have already spent a lot of money on courses that will “teach you to be rich”, do something with it. Appreciate the fact and your guts that you spent money to learn and because of just that alone, you have taken action towards your success.

A great quote I heard was “You don’t have to get it perfect. You just have to get it going.” True, that.

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Aunty blogs at HonoluluAunty.com and is a committed, successful real estate investor who believes in taking charge of her own finances and not depending on Social Security and/or Medicare for her financial future. She is an active participant here at Kung Fu Finance and I thank her for sharing her story with us!

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Honolulu Aunty February 22, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Kung Fu Girl,

Mahalo for letting Aunty talk!

Have a great trip to Chile – look forward to a great report from one of my favorite “nieces”!

Aunty

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Kung Fu Grasshopper February 23, 2012 at 4:32 pm

I really enjoyed the guest article. Great idea Kung Fu Girl!! Thanks, Honolulu Aunty!

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Honolulu Aunty February 26, 2012 at 12:54 am

Mahalo Kung Fu Grasshopper!

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Willis February 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm

Thank you so much Honolulu Aunty for sharing your experience making inroads to Real Estate Investing.

I love these kinds of articles as it offers all of us a chance to see what’s behind the curtains of said education courses, and what to expect down the road of this wonderful journey.

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Honolulu Aunty February 26, 2012 at 7:35 pm

Aloha and mahalo Willis! I am a real sucker for those sales pitches.

Some people might think they are a rip-off, but I do believe they were of value – though maybe they could have been less painful to the pocketbook.

I continue to sign up for courses, programs, newsletters (like Kung Fu Girl’s!), and education. I figure I won’t know what is going to work for me until I try it. Maybe that is why I have so many pairs of shoes, lol!

My son is my skeptic and tries to make me see reason in my tendencies as a “sucker” personality. I appreciate that, and perhaps one day I will be a bit more of a skeptic and he will plunge in as a sucker once in a while. Funny though how our roles have reversed as I have gotten older.

Meanwhile, I am continuing to learn and grow and feel years younger because of it.

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Willis February 26, 2012 at 9:02 pm

That’s a great point Honolulu Aunty. We really don’t know what kind of value can be extracted from courses/programs/newsletters until you have been inside it. A look from the outside will only be a guess-timate at best.

I’m smiling as I have been signing up to all sorts of programs/newsletters subscriptions for the past year. To the point that I can hardly dedicate enough time to them anymore, so to the chopping board I must now go.

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Tutu February 27, 2012 at 9:54 am

Aloha, Aunty!
Your article reveals an akamai, proactive, and hands on approach to learning from the ground up. Others should benefit from your rather costly experiences with the many “associated” programs or groups cashing in on the “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” trade name. BTW, have often wondered about the identity of the Rich Dad. Good luck on your future investments in Nevada and elsewhere. And KFG, mahalo for inviting Aunty to share her experiences.
Hana hou,
Tutu from Honolulu

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Honolulu Aunty February 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Aloha and mahalo Tutu! Or maybe I should call you “sistah!” Honolulu is a rather small place (well, compared to Los Angeles or Vegas) so I hope to bump into you at some meeting over here. If the next Hawaii Wealth Summit can pull it off, they will be bringing the real Rich Dad author to speak, Robert Kiyosaki himself! Local boy who isn’t local anymore…

Willis, my advice to you is to actually start looking into the programs and stuff you bought. I was pretty disgusted with myself and ready to toss out everything, but then I did lesson 1, then lesson 2 of Raymond Aaron’s program and found it to be quite fantastic!

I know that I shouldn’t have bought 75% of what I did, but I would have spent it somewhere else more foolhardy. Or, I share it with friends that want to check it out. Give them my trash, for it might be just the treasure that they need.

Aloha!

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Willis February 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm

That’s great advice Aunty. I imagine there’s gems everywhere if we know where to look and filter + retain the information.

First I’m going to dig out from the trash some old programs and archive it in the meantime to give away in the future.

Second, I shall go thru programs I kept more intently and discover the gems hiding within.

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Tutu February 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Aunty,
Let us locals know when the guru Robert Kiyosaki will be in Honolulu to address a conference. Some of us would like to hear him live.
Tutu

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Honolulu Aunty February 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Will do, Tutu! The Hawaii Wealth Summits are usually in February of every year, but for a big name like Kiyosaki they might adjust to his schedule.

I have a facebook persona – you can friend me by searching for Honolulu Aunty on facebook. Then, when I hear of upcoming meetings in Hawaii and stuff like dat, I post.

You can also join in my email subscription on my blog HonoluluAunty.com or check in on it from time to time. I hope to meet you one day!

Aunty

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Peggy J. February 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm

So daring that you own property in Nevada and live in Hawaii. I love your quote, “You don’t have to get it perfect. You just have to get it going.”

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Honolulu Aunty March 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Aloha Peggy J!

Not too daring to own rental property in Las Vegas and live in Hawaii – MUCH more affordable and plentiful. Also, us locals LOVE going to Vegas, sometimes called the 9th island.

One day I do hope to be able to sell the Vegas properties for a tidy profit, do 1031 exchanges (or not) and buy rental property here in Hawaii. A rather long term plan a bit too dependent upon great timing, but hope springs eternal with me, much to the chagrin of advisors, lol!

Regarding “get it going”… I know of too many people who learn and learn and learn, but don’t do a thing about it other than read some more and learn some more. I think I’m too far gone in years so I don’t wait around anymore. I am finding my golden years to be my best years!

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Mike LaCava July 9, 2012 at 1:19 pm

If I only knew that line when I first started: “You don’t have to get it perfect. You just have to get it going.”!!! I spent more time futzing with my logo than I did actually getting my business going…time wasted! Great blog, love your energetic, no nonsense style of approaching finance and independence. Best, Mike L.

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