It all comes back around…
A few months ago I wrote an article about FOREX (I Want it NOW—Adventures in FOREX)—a sexy, “smart money” arena where you can make hundreds of thousands of dollars in an instant… OR, lose your shirt.
(And unfortunately, it’s a lot easier to do the latter!)
If you haven’t read that article yet, I recommend you do so now before continuing, as it will give you the background for today’s missive (don’t worry, it’s short and sweet).
I called out a specific ad I had seen floating around the Internet,
“You Could Have Turned A Simple $10,000 Investment, Into $251,000 Over The Past 48 Months…”
And warned about the risks of the FOREX market (which of course the ad and subsequent webinar avoided mentioning).
Now, I am not “anti-FOREX” whatsoever—in fact, it’s a great place to make a lot of money.
But there’s a rather famous saying in poker (and in investing)…
“Do you know who the sucker is at the table?
Because if you don’t…it’s YOU!”
Yikes.
And I desperately do not want YOU, dear grasshopper, to be the sucker, nor the “dumb money” (and I know that thankfully you are not, because hey, you’re subscribing to Kung Fu Finance and taking charge of your financial education!).
But I just learned from a dear KFF subscriber today that in fact, those who did fall prey to that very same ad not only did not turn their $10,000 into $251,000…they lost 60% of their money.
Ouch.
Now, rather than going on about how unscrupulous (or perhaps just wildly naïve) this advertiser was, I’d like to focus on how you can protect yourself from this in the future, because unfortunately, these type of scams exist all around us and are quite easy to fall prey to! (In fact, I suspect the advertiser fell prey himself—he’s not necessarily an evil guy, just ignorant of FOREX).
So what can you DO?
How can you tell the truth from the hype in these situations?
I have three rock-solid suggestions for you.
1. Get to know the actual person as much as you can.
I stress this often here on Kung Fu Finance, but whenever possible, get to know the actual person behind the opportunity. (In fact I devoted an entire article to this entitled “People Power”).
What are they like? What are their values? Why do they want you to invest with them? What are their motives?
You will fare so much better if you can get to know them in person and establish that they, like you, have strong ethics and respect and reflect the same values and morals that YOU believe are important.
(Note: this is why I like Doug Casey so much—yes, he’s outspoken, but the guy has absolutely unparalleled integrity and believes that “doing what you say you will do” is the highest moral code of all—can’t argue with that!).
But this alone is not enough. You must also…
2. Get to know the investment as much as you can.
Here is where many people slack off…
(I know, I know, it’s tempting! And we’re all very busy.)
But this is important!
It’s very true that if you know, like, and trust the person recommending you something, as in example #1 above, it’s easy to just say, “well, Bob’s a good guy and he thinks this will be great so I’ll just do what he says.”
Newsletter writers tear their hair out about this all the time—yes, they do their best (at least the good ones do) to bring you their best recommendations, but at the end of the day it’s still YOUR decision and YOUR money on the line.
And unfortunately, as these unsuspecting FOREX investors found out, simply putting money into something that you don’t understand but that promises you a whopping, wild return (“turn $10,000 into $251,000!”) is usually a recipe for disaster.
In order to invest in the FOREX market (or any market, for that matter…), you need to do some research and figure out how that market works. What are the risks? What are the rewards? How long is your money tied up? How do you get your money out? Etc.
3. Find some other investors who know that market better than you do and who have actually participated in it and see what they think.
Network, network, network! This might at first seem difficult if you live in a remote area (how am I going to find a FOREX investor in the boondocks?) but with the advent of the Internet it is becoming easier all of the time.
(Note: This is why I love investing conferences so much—you can meet and greet actual, honest-to-goodness boots-on-the-ground investors who have already done exactly what you’re trying to do, and you can talk to them about their experience! This is where you’ll hear “the real deal”, and trust me, it’s invaluable.)
I know not everyone can make it to loads of live investment conferences each year, but you can also seek out local area investment groups and clubs, and can find like-minded investors on the Internet (ahem, like here on Kung Fu Finance!).
For example, I know KFF subscriber Ryan has experience with FOREX, and if and when I jump back into the FOREX market (I haven’t been in it recently) I will absolutely seek him out first!
Make other investing buddies, swap stories and tips and tricks, and see how quickly your knowledge and expertise explode.
(It’s awesome, I promise…and of course I hope you’ll start here on Kung Fu Finance!)
Anyway, this is actually not at all what I planned on writing today, but when I received that email from a dear KFF subscriber I just had to get this out.
I want to issue a very warm welcome to all new subscribers and a hearty thanks to those of you who’ve been with me since the beginning…I’ve got big plans in store for you!
Please let me know what you think about Forex in the comments!
To your financial success,
— Kung Fu Girl
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Aloha, KFG!
I liked the learning strategy to have the subscribers review the features of FOREX (from Part 1) and what was most educational were the comments and dialogue between members, who shared their personal experiences of wins-losses and other means of trading in this venture, providing a forum of helpful ideas that brought clarity for me or perhaps other uninitiated investors.
Mahalo from East Honolulu,
Tutu
Thank you, Tutu!
Yes, I love it when other community members share their expertise with us– it enriches the whole community.
Mahalo for your nice comment!
– KFG
Hi KF Girl,
I tried my hand at Forex, I really like the game, it is a really fun casino game. Back around 2007, the US/yen carry trade was on, Yen traded at 124.00 where is it today 81 or so! I knew the trend was going down, but I could never get in and figure out how to stay in the trend and take the ride. I could never get my position positive enough to ride out the risk. The leverage was just to high. I even spent a while, quite awhile playing with one cent trades to try to learn and understand.
It was just beyound me to figure out the trends and maintain a position, the risk was just to high.
Hi Steve,
Thank you for your great comment and experience! Yes, I agree– the leverage is a killer. I’ve only had limited success with FOREX (and need to get MUCH more educated myself before doing more with it!).
I like your idea of 1 cent trades to learn…very smart! There must be some good FOREX training programs out there– I will investigate, as I’m interested in this area, too!
Thanks so much,
– KFG
Great Article KFG
Forex is a fun beast to play around with. I tried it out with $500 and actually gained up to $700. I used an EA at the time and then it tanked. Lost basically 500 overnight. I decided to trade Gold a bit and then eventually lost the rest. Even though I lost everything it was training and a learning experience. I am now apart of an investment club and have been tracking a Trader for the past 7 months. He consistently makes 30-40% on the market per month with very little drawdown. I am quite impressed with his system of trading and he has been making this on over 50 accounts that he actively trades. He has also lost a ton of money in the market until he found out his own system in trading.
Have a great one KFG and keep up the great work!
Tim
Hi Tim,
Thanks for sharing, and wow, that trader sounds like a dream!
30 – 40% per month consistently is unheard of– that’s fantastic! It’s great that you are seeking out a real-live “been there done that” mentor to learn from….very smart!!!
– KFG
Dear Kung Fu Girl: I love you. I have never read so much common sense in
finances before. I pray for you and your well being. I wonder how long before
the “Powers That Be” will try to silence you. Perhaps, you do not realize what
you are up against.
Kind regards
Anthony Garcia
Hi Anthony,
Thank you, that is so nice of you, and I do hope the “Powers That Be” leave me alone!
(I have no delusions of grandeur, though– I can’t imagine what they would want with lil’ ol’ me when they could go after so many more interesting and influential rabble rousers, LOL!)
But thank you so much for your nice comment and words of support– I appreciate it!
– KFG
Aloha KFG,
As one who was the sucker at the poker table, I did manage to escape unscathed by all the drama over at that too-good-to-be-true scene, though I must admit, I really did believe they could turn $10,000 into $251,000!
Unfortunately, so many of the ones who also believed invested more than they should have, instead of only what they could afford to lose. They are the ones most furious, and the main players are now acting like finger pointing cry babies.
As for me, I am eating crow pie – my son warned me about the company and the source, and although I hate to admit it, he was right! Aargh, aargh, aargh! Not sure if my balloon popping or my son’s smugness will irk me more.
I’ll have to do an update about it since I was guilty of believing just because I wanted to believe. On the human side of the equation though, I still believe the intention of all involved was good and honest, just too presumptuous and “naive” as you so succinctly put it.
Mahalo,
Aunty
Hi Aunty!
I agree…(and I’ve been the sucker at the table many a time in years past, LOL, so believe me I understand!) I don’t think there was intentional wrong-doing, but it’s interesting using just an extremely informal poll of KFF subscribers, only ONE has had much success with FOREX (if there are others of you out there, please let me know!) and most have some pretty scary experiences with the leverage.
You are right in believing that you can turn $10,000 into $251,000, but where it was misleading was in leading people to believe that that is “usual” or “normal” or “typical” in any way…yikes!
Anyway, I am so glad you escaped intact (hooray!) and I would love it if you would share your experiences with us (if you’d like!).
Mahalo for your very nice comment and for sharing!
– KFG
Aloha KFG,
Aunty’s experience with this whole disaster was being blessedly absent. I just updated my Review page and did a post on it, crediting my procrastination for the good luck and saving my shirt.
Your lessons will be taken to heart. Still irks me that my son was right – and now he might think that he is always right. I have a feeling it will get worse as I get older and he gets wiser.
Mahalo,
Lucky Aunty
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